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    Wednesday, February 06, 2008

    Nine cables cut:


    BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED
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    Can someone confirm these cable cuts independently, please?

    one off of Marseille, France
    two off of Alexandria, Egypt
    one off of Dubai, in the Persian Gulf
    one off of Bandar Abbas, Iran in the Persian Gulf
    one between Qatar and the UAE, in the Persian Gulf
    one in the Suez, Egypt
    one near Penang, Malaysia
    initially unreported cable cut on 23 January 2008 (Persian Gulf?)


    Connecting The Many Undersea Cut Cable Dots - 9 Or More?

    By Richard Sauder, PhD
    Copyright 2008. All rights reserved.


    The last week has seen a spate of unexplained, cut, undersea communications cables that has severely disrupted communications in many countries in the Middle East, North Africa and South Asia. As I shall show, the total numbers of cut cables remain in question, but likely number as many as eight, and maybe nine or more.

    The trouble began on 30 January 2008 with CNN reports that two cables were cut off the Egyptian Mediterranean coast, initially severely disrupting Internet and telephone traffic from Egypt to India and many points in between. According to CNN the two cut cables "account for as much as three-quarters of the international communications between Europe and the Middle East." CNN reported that the two cut cables off the Egyptian coast were "FLAG Telecom's FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, a cable owned by a consortium of more than a dozen telecommunications companies".(10) Other reports placed one of the cut cables, SeaMeWe-4, off the coast of France, near Marseille.(9)(12) However, many news organizations reported two cables cut off the Egyptian coast, including the SeaMeWe-4 cable connecting Europe with the Middle East. The possibilities are thus three, based on the reporting in the news media: 1) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut off the coast of France, and mistakenly reported as being cut off the coast of Egypt, because it runs from France to Egypt; 2) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut off the Egyptian coast and mistakenly reported as being cut off the coast of France, because it runs from France to Egypt; or 3) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut both off the Egyptian and the French coasts, nearly simultaneously, leading to confusion in the reporting. I am not sure what to think, because most reports, such as this one from the International Herald Tribune, refer to two cut cables off the Egyptian coast, one of the two being the SeaMeWe4 cable,(11) while other reports also refer to a cut cable off the coast of France.(9)(12) It thus appears that the same cable may have suffered two cuts, both off the French and the Egyptian coasts. So there were likely actually three undersea cables cut in the Mediterranean on 30 January 2008.

    In the case of the cables cut off the Egyptian coast, the news media initially advanced the explanation that the cables had been cut by ships' anchors.(10)(13) But on 3 February the Egyptian Ministry of Communications and Information Technology said that a review of video footage of the coastal waters where the two cables passed revealed that the area had been devoid of ship traffic for the 12 hours preceding and the 12 hours following the time of the cable cuts.(5)(11) So the cable cuts cannot have been caused by ship anchors, in view of the fact that there were no ships there.

    The cable cutting was just getting started. Two days later an undersea cable was reported cut in the Persian Gulf, 55 kilometers off of Dubai.(11) The cable off of Dubai was reported by CNN to be a FLAG Falcon cable.(10) And then on 3 February came reports of yet another damaged undersea cable, this time between Qatar and the UAE (United Arab Emirates).(6)(7)(11)

    The confusion was compounded by another report on 1 February 2008 of a cut undersea cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka.(19) If the report is accurate this would represent a sixth cut cable. The same article mentions the cut cable off of Dubai in the Persian Gulf, but seeing as the Suez is on the other side of the Arabian peninsula from the Persian Gulf, the article logically appears to be describing two separate cable cutting incidents.
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    Egyptian ship disappears

    By Anastasia Tomazhenkova: Several days ago a cargo ship with its 14-member crew left an Egyptian port and went in the Red Sea en route for Sudan. The vessel went missing. Egypt authorities launched a search for the ship Tuesday, a government spokesman said.

    The vessel, Badr 1, left Egypt's Suez Canal carrying a 1,700 metric ton (1874 U.S. ton) cargo and a crew of nine Egyptians, including the captain, four Sudanese and a Yemeni on board, said Ahmed al-Quweisny, a foreign ministry official.

    The ship's destination was Port Sudan, but it was unclear when and where the vessel went missing along the 1,280 kilometer (800-mile) route.

    Rescue ships are thoroughly combing the area along the stretches of the Sudanese and Egyptian shores backed up by a search plane, said al-Quweisny. But so far, all efforts to locate the ship, which did not send a distress signal at the time it went missing, failed.

    Meanwhile, a Sudanese official with the transportation ministry, Bridges Fatih Saeed met Tuesday with Egyptian ambassador to Sudan, Mohamed Shazali, to discuss the missing ship. The two said that both countries' shipping authorities would continue doing "their best" to find the vessel, said the state SUNA news agency in Khartoum.

    SUNA said the ship, built in 1960 and owned by the Afro-Asia Shipping Company, carried a cargo of cement. The company has said its vessel conformed to all safety requirements and had all needed permits for sailing, according to al-Quweisny.

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    FOLLOW UP
    OP, nice thread, but...

    no links that you provided (nor any news i've searched with google, yahoo and ask.com) says that 6,7,8,9 or even more cables are cut.

    the article you provided from this guy who wrote it ASSUMES and CLAIMS that 6,7,8,9 or even more cables are cut, yet provides no evidence what so ever that this is really the case.

    it's nothing more than a rumor.

    feel free to proof me wrong.

    til' that it's still 4 or 5 cables.

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    Gerald

    CUT CABLES BACKGROUNDER, MAPS, PHOTOS, IRAN, LINKS


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    Monday, February 04, 2008

    5TH Internet cable cut:, 1.7 million

    IRAN: thru singapore





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    USA needs a "Internet protection force"

    DUBAI - An estimated 1.7 million Internet users in the UAE have been affected due to the recent cable cuts, an expert said on February 4, quoting recent figures published by TeleGeography, an international research website.

    Internet data was majorly affected as it is the biggest capacity carried by the undersea cables. However, all voice calls, corporate data and video traffic were also affected.

    Two du experts briefed the media on the current methods being undertaken by the telecom provider to re-route the Internet traffic to provide normalcy to the users.

    Quoting TeleGeography and describing the effect the cuts had on the Internet world, Mahesh Jaishanker, executive director, Business Development and Marketing, du, said, "The submarine cable cuts in FLAG Europe-Asia cable 8.3km away from Alexandria, Egypt and SeaMeWe-4 affected at least 60 million users in India, 12 million in Pakistan, 6 million in Egypt and 4.7 million in Saudi Arabia."

    A total of five cables being operated by two submarine cable operators have been damaged with a fault in each. These are SeaMeWe-4 (South East Asia-Middle East-Western Europe-4) near Penang, Malaysia, the FLAG Europe-Asia near Alexandria, FLAG near the Dubai coast, FALCON near Bandar Abbas in Iran and SeaMeWe-4, also near Alexandria.

    The first cut in the undersea Internet cable occurred on January 23, in the Flag Telcoms FALCON submarine cable which was not reported. This has not been repaired yet and the cause remains unknown, explained Jaishanker.
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    We first mentioned this new paradigm here, New threat to GWOT. 02.01.08 2:05 pm EST

    And followed up with New WMD, related to this situation. 02.03.08 10:16 pm EST

    Whom ever it is cutting these cables can work under water, even a diesel sub, with a special ops team or special munitions could be doing this.

    How is it that both Flag Telecomand
    SEA-ME-WEA 4 cables
    (above and below) were severed within hours of each other, although
    Marseille, France and Alexandria, Egypt, are hundreds of miles apart?

    AT LEAST 2 SUBS.

    ( ArabianBusiness.com was told on Sunday by unofficial sources that the problem is related to a power system and not a physical break in the cable, as is thought to be the case in three international incidents earlier in the week. ??? unconfirmed )

    Cutting the ME off from the Internet would hamper the Military forces in the region.

    I expect USA is marshaling all the anti-sub forces in this region to this region.

    This is cut number 5 and there is no reason to expect it will stop soon.
    As slow as they are going they must have great confidence in their invisibility and
    or defensive capabilities.
    And taking them out maybe a signal for the next phase.
    Almost 90 per cent of Internet traffic is routed through undersea cables and only 10 per cent is done through the satellite.

    We enter a new phase of Internet WAR.
    Whether this is an attack or not, it is known and must now be planed for.
    Who needs to be watched?
    Any one with a sub force ( +300 subs? )that can range the world and take out enough cables simultaneously to take down the web.
    OR:
    Subs in combination with bots.

    Gerald

    TeleGeography is proud to announce a new edition of its popular Submarine Cable Map. The 2008 edition includes information for over 120 submarine cable systems, including major systems that are in service as well as announced cable systems expected to join a reinvigorated cable market. All data contained in the map is drawn from our Global Bandwidth Research Service, our definitive guide to the supply, demand and pricing of international bandwidth.
    SOURCE:

    The history and explanation can be founded here: submarine communication cable.

    high-res pdf of global submarine fiber optics: http://www1.alcatel-lucent.com/submarine/refs/World_Map_2007_LR.pdf

    Map most impacted countrys.

    The FLAG cut is reported to have taken place 8.3 kilometers (5.2 miles) from
    Alexandria beach in northern Egypt.

    The SEA-ME-WEA 4<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEA-ME-WE_4_%28cable_system%29>cable
    was damaged
    in the waters off Marseille,
    France<http://www.news.com/Two-communication-cables-in-the-Mediterranean-are...>,
    reports C/Net. The two cables, which are separately managed and operated,
    were damaged within hours of each other.
    <http://www.vsnlinternational.com/map/>

    How is it that both Flag
    Telecom<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-Optic_Link_Around_the_Globe>and
    SEA-ME-WEA
    4 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEA-ME-WE_4_%28cable_system%29> cables
    (above and below) were severed within hours of each other, although
    Marseille, France and Alexandria, Egypt, are hundreds of miles apart? At
    this point, details are sketchy and the cause is still unclear.
    <http://www.vsnlinternational.com/map/>

    VSNL has a terrific interactive global cable
    map<http://www.vsnlinternational.com/map/>(above), while the
    SEA-ME-WEA 4 map <http://www.seamewe4.com/> (below) shows the distance to
    France. VSNL <http://www.vsnlinternational.com/map/>,

    Cable cut History:


    The magnitude 7.1 earthquake was followed by one of the largest disruptions
    of modern telecommunications history.
    <http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/01/14/fiber-crosses-the-pond/>

    Nine submarine cables in the Strait of Luzon, between Taiwan and the
    Philippines, were broken thus disabling vital connections between SE Asia
    and the rest of the world. China
    Telecom<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Telecom>reported that
    several international submarine communications cables had been
    broken, including:

    - CUCN <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUCN_%28cable_system%29> and
    SMW3<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEA-ME-WE_3_%28cable_system%29>,
    which was damaged at December 26<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_26>,
    2006 <http://www.dailywireless.org/wiki/2006> 20:25
    UTC+8<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B8>approximately
    9.7 km away from landing point in Fangshan, Pingtung
    County<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingtung_County>,
    Taiwan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan>;
    - APCN 2 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APCN_2_%28cable_system%29> S3,
    which was damaged at December 27<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_27>,
    2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006> 02:00
    UTC+8<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B8>approximately 2100 km away
    from landing point in
    Chongming <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongming>,
    Shanghai<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai>,
    China <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China>;
    - APCN 2 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APCN_2_%28cable_system%29> S7,
    which was damaged at December 27<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_27>,
    2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006> 00:06
    UTC+8<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B8>approximately 904 km away
    from landing point in
    Tanshui <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamsui_Township>, Taipei
    County<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_County>,
    Taiwan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan>;
    - FLAG Europe
    Asia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-Optic_Link_Around_the_Globe>,
    the segment between Hong Kong <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong>and
    Shanghai <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai> was broken at December
    27 <http://www.dailywireless.org/wiki/December_27>,
    2006<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006>04:56
    UTC+8 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B8>;
    - FLAG North Asia
    Loop<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber-Optic_Link_Around_the_Globe>,
    the segment between Hong Kong <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong>and
    Pusan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusan> was broken at December
    26<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_26>,
    2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006> 20:43
    UTC+8<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B8>,
    severely damaging the communications within the Asia-Pacific region and with
    the United States <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> and
    Europe <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe>.
    From Google group SOURCE:

    Update: 02.05.08 6:14 pm est

    Work begins to repair severed net (BBC)

    - 3 hours ago
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    Al Qaeda deep sea divers!

    They hide in underwater caves!


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    Cable repair ships, photos

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    REPAIR SCHEDUAL

    Behalf Of Sanghani, Bijal
    Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:26 AM

    Subject: [menog] FLAG Cable Cut - Update

    Dear All,

    Thought I'd give you all an update on where we (FLAG) are with the cable cuts -

    FEA Segment D - The Cable ship CS Certamen is now expected to arrive at the Alexandria repair ground on Wednesday 6th February. A Permit for the repair is currently being expedited with the Egyptian authorities.


    FEA Segment M - The cable ship CS Asean Restorer has been booked for this repair. It is currently out on an APCN repair and with current plan will be ready to start any work on our cable on or after 11th Feb. We have the OTDR traces from Penang and see that the fault is around 28km out from the station.


    FALCON Segment 7b (Bandra Abbas - Al Seeb) - E-Marine continues to await the permit to enter the Iranian waters and current forecast for the ship to start a work is around 19th February.


    FALCON Segment 2 - Fault 1st February 41km from repeater, which is between the first two repeaters out of Dubai toward Muscat (Al Seeb). The ship has left Abu Dhabi and is on route to the repair ground. The repair is expected to start in the next 12 hours (weather permitting).


    FALCON Segment 7a - Fault 1st February between BND (Bandar Abbas, Iran) and KWI (Kuwait), we are waiting for ship to go out and it maybe fixed before going out the fault on 7b - to be confirmed.

    I hope this helps,

    Regards,

    Bijal Sanghani

    Sr. IP Technical Support Engineer

    Technical Services Group

    FLAG Telecom

    Tel. +442 082 *** ***

    www.flagtelecom.com


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    FALCON is a submarine telecommunications cable connecting India and several countries in the Persian Gulf. The cable is operated by India's Flag Telecom, a fully-owned subsidiary of Reliance Communications.

    Landing points are:[1]

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    Strange:


    DEBKAfile
    Hasn't even mentioned this.

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    Abandoned Anchor Cut Gulf Internet Cable
    FLAG says a 5.5 ton anchor found near cable break is believe to be the cause for one cable break. But the others...?
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