Cyber vigilantes
Cyber vigilantes — doing more harm than good
I was recently in a discussion about cyber vigilantes.
My argument were ignored and fell on deaf ears.
But I think some ideas were worth repeating.
There is a fellow that takes terrorist sites off
line for 30 min to an hour. A vigilante.
And a former Australian senior Counter Terrorism
Intelligence Analyst with the Australian Federal Police
she claims he " OBSTRUCTS INVESTIGATIONS AND OPERATIONS, it is
irresponsible and smacks of hubris."
My response:
We are all just Vigilantes,
there is no Sheriff on the Internet.
But different countrys have different laws.
We are all net citizens and we need to own this ( Internet )
Shutting down these sites for a few min, isn’t irresponsible,
maybe illegal? And I have a much higher opinion of our
Intelligence boys, THIS DOESN’T PHASE THEM.
there is no Sheriff on the Internet.
But different countrys have different laws.
We are all net citizens and we need to own this ( Internet )
Shutting down these sites for a few min, isn’t irresponsible,
maybe illegal? And I have a much higher opinion of our
Intelligence boys, THIS DOESN’T PHASE THEM.
His work pisses of the targets and reminds them
that they are on the Internet at the discression
of us, you and I, the net citizens.
that they are on the Internet at the discression
of us, you and I, the net citizens.
Iran tried to shut off its citizens from the Internet
and the world’s internet citizens said “NO”.
Many of us helped keep the Internet open for
the Iranians.
and the world’s internet citizens said “NO”.
Many of us helped keep the Internet open for
the Iranians.
These are terrorists and they continue to threaten you and me.
I reserve the right of self defense, I take into my own hands
the right to take the sites if I am able, in self defense.
I reserve the right of self defense, I take into my own hands
the right to take the sites if I am able, in self defense.
n general there aint no cops here.
We all exist to the sufferance of the other.
If enough of us vote no terrorist sites
on the Internet then they will be gone,
or hidden very very well.
If enough of us vote no terrorist sites
on the Internet then they will be gone,
or hidden very very well.
The Internet is awakening as its own power.
The WWW is slowly realizing it has power,
collectively.
The WWW is slowly realizing it has power,
collectively.
We shouldn’t allow evil to exist just to
collect evidence and intelligence about it.
I suggest a new goal:
collect evidence and intelligence about it.
I suggest a new goal:
We should end the evil.
DOWN THE TERRORIST SITES.
DOWN THE TERRORIST SITES.
The Paradigm may have gotten turned upside down.
Gerald
The response was: hubris
Again my response:
Sophrosyne exemplified or Hubris, who owns the Internet?
Part of the Current paradigm expands terrorism.
And may be counter productive.
And may be counter productive.
Speaking of hubris; Australia is currently involved in an Internet Censorship
experiment and so is Iran.
experiment and so is Iran.
What Governmental authority is being usurped.
Does Australia own the WWW?
Does Australia own the WWW?
I would suggest the net citizens have some
ownership of the Internet as a matter piraticality.
ownership of the Internet as a matter piraticality.
Who owns the Internet?
“Taking the law into their own hands”?
Until there is a real Sheriff on the WWW,
its open season.
Law on the Internet is open to question.
“Taking the law into their own hands”?
Until there is a real Sheriff on the WWW,
its open season.
Law on the Internet is open to question.
Of course that doesn’t mean Albina can’t issue
an warrant for my arrest,
But you have no absolute moral or legal grounds for control
of the Internet.
an warrant for my arrest,
But you have no absolute moral or legal grounds for control
of the Internet.
If Intelligence agencys want to influence us and our actions,
they simply have to officially contact us.
they simply have to officially contact us.
Some of our Intelligence has been so hot we ( IATT )send out
“KILL OFFERS”, to Intelligence agencys on some posts, and some of those offers
have been activated, and those posts never see the light
of day.
“KILL OFFERS”, to Intelligence agencys on some posts, and some of those offers
have been activated, and those posts never see the light
of day.
The paradigm for terrorism on the Internet is still developing,
dialog and exchanges will influence both sides by dint of reason,
one can hope.
dialog and exchanges will influence both sides by dint of reason,
one can hope.
I refuse to be just SHEEP on the Internet.
China and Russia embraces their civilian activists,
and successfully puts them to work.
The West tends to ignore them or arrest them.
and successfully puts them to work.
The West tends to ignore them or arrest them.
But the Internet is developing its own force.
Ignore it or reach out to it.
Ignore it or reach out to it.
But its there.
Gerald
Anthropologist
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She was unresponsive to the issues I raised.
They deleted my final comments???
Not very professional.
Gerald
Tactical Internet Systems analyst.
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