‘Al Qaeda winning war of ideas’, no LIES.
LONDON, Oct 22: Britain’s interior minister has warned that the government risks losing the “battle of ideas” with Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, The Sunday Telegraph newspaper said.
Home Secretary John Reid spoke at an emergency meeting of ministers and security officials and pressed for an urgent escalation in the propaganda war against such groups, the weekly said.
THEY ARE MISSING THE POINT. AL QAEDA ISN'T WINNING THE WAR OF IDEAS, THEY ARE WINNING THE WAR WITH PROPAGANDA, LIES. YOU DEFEAT PROPAGANDA NOT WITH MORE PROPAGANDA BUT WITH THE TRUTH.
The government has decided to fund an Islamic website calling for moderation, The Sunday Telegraph said.
http://www.radicalmiddleway.co.uk/
NICE START BUT THE SITE IS NOT TAKING ON THE LIES OF AQ.
THE SITE POSTS MESSAGES ON THE SAME PAGE FIRST IN ENGLISH THEN IN ARABIC. BOTH LANGUAGES SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN WEB PAGE.
THE EFFORT MUST GO TO THEM, NOT EXPECT "THEM" TO COME TO YOU.
THEY ARE PREACHING TO THE QUIRE.
ONCE AGAIN THEY ARE BEHIND THE TECH. CURVE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THE RADICALS ARE PASSING DVD's, GOV. IS PASSING OUT CD's, THAT SAYS SOMETHING.
THEY HAVE TO GET INSIDE THE JIHADIST DECISION CURVE, GET TO THEM BEFORE THEY BECOME JIHADISTS, AND ALSO CONFRONT THE JAHIDISTS LIES.
The ringleaders of the July 7 bombers, Mohammed Siddique Khan and Shahzad Tanweer, both former students at Leeds Metropolitan University, showed up on MI5's radar on as many as nine occasions before the attacks. According to Whitehall sources, credible intelligence indicated that Mr. Khan had visited Pakistan between November 2003 and February 2004 and sought to contact al Qaeda
WHEN WE HAVE ENGAGED SOME OF THESE JIHADISTS ON THE INTERNET THEY MOUTH THE SAME 'SOUND BITES'. BUT WHEN CONFRONTED WITH QUOTES FROM THE KORAN EXPOSING AQ's LIES AND PROPAGANDA, THEY RESORT TO NAME CALLING, A TACIT ADMISSION OF THEIR ERROR, AND AT THAT PIONT WE KNOW THEY HAVE HEARD "M's" WORD AND HAVE SOME DOUBTS. THE BEGINING OF DE-RADICALIZATION.
Senior military intelligence officers now dismiss this line as well, believing the bombers received crucial weapons training in Pakistan. They argue that if Britain is now al Qaeda's primary target, it makes sense to look much more carefully at the Pakistan dimension and also at the links between virulent Islamic groups in Pakistan and the U.K. Many British Islamic colleges have ties to fundamentalist Pakistanis. Other links exist to extremist Kashmiri groups, in turn allegedly connected to al Qaeda or the Pakistani secret service.
AQ ARE HIDDING A POLITICAL AGENDA BEHIND A RADICALIZATION/BASTARDZATION OF ISLAM.
EXPOSE THE LIES, DIVEST THEM OF ISLAM AND YOU HAVE A POLITICAL GROUP, WITHOUT MARTYRS, OR RELIGIOUS TRAPINGS,
Muslim students concerned about these developments tell me that at many of these Islamic societies terrorism is portrayed as justified acts of "resistance."
IF THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS SEEN AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND NOT A RELIGIOUS STATEMENT, THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF DE-RADICALIZATION
THAT STATEMENT CAN BE RELIGIOUSLY REFUTED WITH THE KORAN.
A leading imam in Birmingham often preaches on British campuses that the London bombers have to be seen as "martyrs."
EXPOSE HIS LIES WITH KORAN QUOTES, MODERATE/TRADITIONAL IMANS KNOW IT IS A LIE.
It is only thanks to a courageous campus imam that their infiltration attempts have been thwarted so far. INFILTRATION IS NOT THE KEY, CONVERSIONS USING THE KORAN TO TRIDATIONAL TRUE ISLAMIC VALUES IS THE KEY.
Yet university authorities usually consider these societies as "religious gatherings," and thus off limits. WOULD THE UNIVERSITY VIEW MEETINGS OF THE CATHLOTIC INQUSITION AS just A "religious gathering"? AT ANY RATE A 'THINKER' IS NEEDED TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, AND USE THE CORRECT QUOTES. NOT AS A SPY, BUT AS THE VOICE OF TRUTH.
WE CANNOT OUT LIE AQ.
AQ IS NOT ABOUT ISLAM IT IS ABOUT LIES.
Zawahiri HAS SAID AQ CANNOT FUNCTION WOTHOUT THE UMMAH.
GERALD
Home Secretary John Reid spoke at an emergency meeting of ministers and security officials and pressed for an urgent escalation in the propaganda war against such groups, the weekly said.
THEY ARE MISSING THE POINT. AL QAEDA ISN'T WINNING THE WAR OF IDEAS, THEY ARE WINNING THE WAR WITH PROPAGANDA, LIES. YOU DEFEAT PROPAGANDA NOT WITH MORE PROPAGANDA BUT WITH THE TRUTH.
The government has decided to fund an Islamic website calling for moderation, The Sunday Telegraph said.
http://www.radicalmiddleway.co.uk/
NICE START BUT THE SITE IS NOT TAKING ON THE LIES OF AQ.
THE SITE POSTS MESSAGES ON THE SAME PAGE FIRST IN ENGLISH THEN IN ARABIC. BOTH LANGUAGES SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN WEB PAGE.
THE EFFORT MUST GO TO THEM, NOT EXPECT "THEM" TO COME TO YOU.
THEY ARE PREACHING TO THE QUIRE.
ONCE AGAIN THEY ARE BEHIND THE TECH. CURVE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THE RADICALS ARE PASSING DVD's, GOV. IS PASSING OUT CD's, THAT SAYS SOMETHING.
THEY HAVE TO GET INSIDE THE JIHADIST DECISION CURVE, GET TO THEM BEFORE THEY BECOME JIHADISTS, AND ALSO CONFRONT THE JAHIDISTS LIES.
http://clearinghouse.infovlad.net/showpost.php?p=19098&postcount=1
The ringleaders of the July 7 bombers, Mohammed Siddique Khan and Shahzad Tanweer, both former students at Leeds Metropolitan University, showed up on MI5's radar on as many as nine occasions before the attacks. According to Whitehall sources, credible intelligence indicated that Mr. Khan had visited Pakistan between November 2003 and February 2004 and sought to contact al Qaeda
WHEN WE HAVE ENGAGED SOME OF THESE JIHADISTS ON THE INTERNET THEY MOUTH THE SAME 'SOUND BITES'. BUT WHEN CONFRONTED WITH QUOTES FROM THE KORAN EXPOSING AQ's LIES AND PROPAGANDA, THEY RESORT TO NAME CALLING, A TACIT ADMISSION OF THEIR ERROR, AND AT THAT PIONT WE KNOW THEY HAVE HEARD "M's" WORD AND HAVE SOME DOUBTS. THE BEGINING OF DE-RADICALIZATION.
http://clearinghouse.infovlad.net/showpost.php?p=20020&postcount=1
Senior military intelligence officers now dismiss this line as well, believing the bombers received crucial weapons training in Pakistan. They argue that if Britain is now al Qaeda's primary target, it makes sense to look much more carefully at the Pakistan dimension and also at the links between virulent Islamic groups in Pakistan and the U.K. Many British Islamic colleges have ties to fundamentalist Pakistanis. Other links exist to extremist Kashmiri groups, in turn allegedly connected to al Qaeda or the Pakistani secret service.
AQ ARE HIDDING A POLITICAL AGENDA BEHIND A RADICALIZATION/BASTARDZATION OF ISLAM.
http://clearinghouse.infovlad.net/showpost.php?p=18992&postcount=1
EXPOSE THE LIES, DIVEST THEM OF ISLAM AND YOU HAVE A POLITICAL GROUP, WITHOUT MARTYRS, OR RELIGIOUS TRAPINGS,
Muslim students concerned about these developments tell me that at many of these Islamic societies terrorism is portrayed as justified acts of "resistance."
IF THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS SEEN AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND NOT A RELIGIOUS STATEMENT, THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF DE-RADICALIZATION
THAT STATEMENT CAN BE RELIGIOUSLY REFUTED WITH THE KORAN.
A leading imam in Birmingham often preaches on British campuses that the London bombers have to be seen as "martyrs."
EXPOSE HIS LIES WITH KORAN QUOTES, MODERATE/TRADITIONAL IMANS KNOW IT IS A LIE.
It is only thanks to a courageous campus imam that their infiltration attempts have been thwarted so far. INFILTRATION IS NOT THE KEY, CONVERSIONS USING THE KORAN TO TRIDATIONAL TRUE ISLAMIC VALUES IS THE KEY.
http://clearinghouse.infovlad.net/showpost.php?p=19287&postcount=1
Yet university authorities usually consider these societies as "religious gatherings," and thus off limits. WOULD THE UNIVERSITY VIEW MEETINGS OF THE CATHLOTIC INQUSITION AS just A "religious gathering"? AT ANY RATE A 'THINKER' IS NEEDED TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, AND USE THE CORRECT QUOTES. NOT AS A SPY, BUT AS THE VOICE OF TRUTH.
WE CANNOT OUT LIE AQ.
AQ IS NOT ABOUT ISLAM IT IS ABOUT LIES.
Zawahiri HAS SAID AQ CANNOT FUNCTION WOTHOUT THE UMMAH.
GERALD
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10/23/2006 06:44:00 PM
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