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Sunday, May 15, 2011

What the Taliban really thinks about US

What the Taliban REALY THINK.
I had sent some Info requests to the Taliban on
Twitter, and I insulted them to see what response
I would get, they sent a sock puppet to verbally
attack me.

This is a partial transcript.
We were typing back and forth
as fast as we could type so
all of this is right off the top of both
her and my head.
And I apologize for both our spelling mistakes.
There were only seconds between exchanges.
I wanted to answer every tweet as soon as she sent
it so they wouldn't get out of order.
And I have big fingers.

But it is a flow of thought,
no opportunity for either of
us to stop and compose a response.
So I trust her thoughts as genuine.

We have and did no operations against
her I want to talk directly to the Taliban
to better understand them.
Looking for an information exchange.



Analysis of this exchange I had with a pro-Taliban
woman in Lahore Pakistan. little over an hour of exchanges.

What the Taliban believe about America.
Upon further consideration that is misleading.
But we do have a valuable insight into
what a Pakistani, probable Taliban supporter
thinks. Again this is just one person.
She is educated, which is an achievement in 
and of its self in Pakistan.
She has access to the WWW,
and is computer literate.
All of this would point to a person in the
upper middle class, Pakistani educated,
and not poor.
Has a good vocabulary and reads and
writes English.
Her forceful opinions and willingness
to confront me speak to growing up in
an enlightened family. Leaning towards
womens rights.
No burka for her.

She has been well exposed to the Taliban
Infowar machine. 
And unfamiliar with the real Taliban rooted
in the 1700's.
She would be very angry at loosing her 
Music, movies or having to stay inside, wear
a burka all the time and only go
into public escorted by a male family
member.
And she has no idea that is the Taliban
objective.
She represents Pakistan's hope and pride
in its women, and has no idea she would
be a Taliban target.
They do not tolerate assertive women.

And semantics also point to her being a female.
Not a male posing as a female.

She has not been exposed to critical thinking,
and blindly follows the Taliban party line.
As she just ignores any argument she doesn't
have an answer for or disproves her paradigm.
The Infowar has convinced her all non-Paki news
is some how controlled by America and lies.

Her anger is invasive and clouds her judgment.
And she uses it to cover Taliban lies.
I doubt she has had any personal exposure
to Americans other than seeing American troops
occasionally.

Her strong nationalistic feelings are underpinned
by the Taliban propaganda.
Produced by:

Ahmed Quraishi

Ahmed Quraishi







http://www.PakNationalists.com ISI propaganda site.

And she views her stand as pro-Pakistan,
not pro-Taliban, although that description
would not bother her.

The Taliban have convinced her US is the 
terrorist, as the Taliban have also convinced
her they are not terrorists, and are her main
source for news, both directly and indirectly.

ISI also supports the anti-American sentiment
through its influence on Paki media and TV,
and the killing of 15 Paki news reporters. 
ISI presents the anti-American propaganda
as pro Nationalistic stance.
"If you love Pakistan, then your hate America"
And this is becoming persuasive in Pakistan.

Since her world view is Taliban are not terrorist
then US bombing and killing of them (and
the collateral damage) marks the Taliban as
innocents, dead civilians and US as the Terrorists.
From what she has said I think she believes the
propaganda blaming all the suicide bombings
on US controlled al qaeda.

The propaganda about al Qaeda has come about
by the Taliban to explain away their suicide bombings
of civilians and Mosques.
Transferring the blame to US.
This "al qaeda controlled by US" is so prevalent,
and persuasive that they are able to deny OBL death.
And the al qaeda admission of his death and even 
his wives and kids statements, as US bought them off.
And they just leave the admission of ISI that OBL is dead,
alone as they have no answer.

This paradigm allows the Taliban to continue to kill
civilians and blame a US controlled al qaeda.
Of course makes NO sense logically.
But I suspect a Stockholm syndrome is at play
as Pakistani s have been held hostage by the Taliban
for years, thru terrorism.


They use a considerable amount of "assumptive
propaganda" which even the illiterate can understand
intuitively. If 'a' and 'B' happen and US is present
then it must have been them. They also use
massive conspiracy theories, with circular arguments
which work if your are a "believer", you just believe.
All in easy to remember "sound bites".
But won't stand up to critical thinking or logical examination.
Which is discouraged, and quickly disabused from
thinking about.

The US Infowar has failed to inject the concept of truthfulness
in world media, and training for critical thinking.

One would think the critical aspects of world media
towards the US would be proof in and of its self.
But the Taliban play it as a great conspiracy.

She has the capacity to think critically but refused
to apply it in her angry mood.

I think she is typical of many Pakistani.


They believe:
US are terrorists
US has killed millions of people world wide.
Korea, Japan, Iraq,Afghan, Paki, Yemen
US is or soon to be starving, hunger joblessnes.
911 was an inside job, US did it.
US controls all media.
OBL wasn't killed may 2
US was faking OBL videos
They only trust their own sites for news.
OBL doa was Akbar Khan
US has bought everyone off.
al qaeda leaders and US the same.
US is terrorist in Paki
Taliban are not terrorist
US killed Bhutto
They support ISI and Mil.
ZAB killed by US
News they don't like is a lie.
News that doesn't fit their paradigm is false
OBL death a fake.
al qaeda not terrorist
US Gov lies about every thing.
US people dying of hunger
Webster, pieczenik their authority for 911 US did
American secretary of state 911 inside job.
OBL dead since 2001
all terrorism due to US
" I can bet am better educated than you. One proof is that i have my own views and you are only following your govts NEWS"
US Gov has undue influence on citizens
All Pakistans problems caused by US
USA is the true terrorist



I believe this is what they really think.

It is in reverse order.
It just the way twitter works.
If you want to read in in the time line
start at the bottom and read up.

It was not easy to obtain the test,
twitter is not set up to do that.

She types "Geraldanthro" to send me tweet.
and I type her name to send to her.
So names are in a kind of reverse order.

Gerald
Anthropologist
START:


#Taliban @alsomood @alemarahweb Why use sock puppet

MairaHashmi, talk to me. Are you Cowards? My guess is YES.

thats why U sent her?
Geraldanthro 28 mins
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@alsomood @alemarahweb Why use a sock puppet MairaHashmi,

talk to me yourselves. Are you Cowards? My guess is YES.
Geraldanthro 32 mins
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@Geraldanthro us cant stop being psycho
MairaHashmi 47 mins
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@MairaHashmi US will stop it, the easy way or the hard

way.
Geraldanthro 48 mins
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@MairaHashmi Then stop your psychotic behavours and quit

typing
Geraldanthro 48 mins
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@Geraldanthro yes, you must know that and stop drama
MairaHashmi 48 mins
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@MairaHashmi Just repeating the same thing over and over

doesnt make it true, thats psychotic
Geraldanthro 49 mins
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@Geraldanthro get lost. it means am not interested in

talking to you anymore.
MairaHashmi 49 mins
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@Geraldanthro ha ha ha ha #US the true #terrorist
MairaHashmi 49 mins
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@MairaHashmi Wher e U get scream?
Geraldanthro 49 mins
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@MairaHashmi If you harbor terrorist US will intrude
Geraldanthro 50 mins
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@Geraldanthro and without making one valid point I made

you scream. Good me!
MairaHashmi 50 mins
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@Geraldanthro stop intruding
MairaHashmi 50 mins
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@MairaHashmi U havn't make even one valid point
Geraldanthro 50 mins
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@Geraldanthro Ok, now get lost! Stop intruding. (you wont

b e able to do that I KNOW)
MairaHashmi 51 mins
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@MairaHashmi Your just not making any sense, no logic no

connection to reality.
Geraldanthro 52 mins
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@Geraldanthro stop pulling your hair out! Yes, #Pakistanis

and the world knows #US is #Terrorist state
MairaHashmi 52 mins
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@Geraldanthro ha ha ha ha ha typical #US approach. Pity

you! tsk tsk
MairaHashmi 53 mins
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@MairaHashmi I didnt use caps, no one is screaming
Geraldanthro 53 mins
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@MairaHashmi I've come to the conclusion your just nutz
Geraldanthro 53 mins
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@Geraldanthro I know you are retarded. You dont have to

scream. Patience!
MairaHashmi 53 mins
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@Geraldanthro huh! and I thought you have a slim chance of

becoming intelligent. #US #Terrorists have killed millions

of innocents! wake up
MairaHashmi 54 mins
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@MairaHashmi your retarded, delousional and psychotic
Geraldanthro 54 mins
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@Geraldanthro Finally I have been able to teach you

something. Good. you are not hopeless. try harder, you can

also become intelligent
MairaHashmi 54 mins
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@MairaHashmi US doesnt kill innocent only by accident
Geraldanthro 55 mins
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RT @Geraldanthro: @MairaHashmi Yes US controls all world

news media.and is the blame for all Paki problems
MairaHashmi 55 mins
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@Geraldanthro Anyways, bye for now. I have better things

to do in this world then to fight with you. As for you,

keep intruding! #Terrorists
MairaHashmi 55 mins
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@MairaHashmi See you are delusional
Geraldanthro 55 mins
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@MairaHashmi Yes US controls all world news media.and is

the blame for all Paki problems
Geraldanthro 56 mins
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@Geraldanthro Its what #US does usually. so I thought may

be you are also planning the same sick game
MairaHashmi 56 mins
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@MairaHashmi no one said anything about killing U I think

U are psychotic
Geraldanthro 57 mins
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@Geraldanthro its all US fed! Try using your brain for

once. I know its difficult. your govt has left you

brainless!
MairaHashmi 57 mins
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@MairaHashmi Its your terrorism they are suicide bomb U

not US
Geraldanthro 57 mins
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@Geraldanthro Same goes for you. Only that you are killing

people cant make others believe you are heroes. all world

knows u are #Terrorists
MairaHashmi 57 mins
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@Geraldanthro Its just that you cant take it that

#Pakistanis dont agree to #US #Terrorism. Its ok. Take

some medicines it might help
MairaHashmi 58 mins
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@MairaHashmi U can beieve any thing U want doesnt make it

true
Geraldanthro 58 mins
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@Geraldanthro 95% of #Pakistan believes #OBL was not here

and is dead since 2001. Off course its #US intrusion
MairaHashmi 58 mins
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@MairaHashmi U are not what I would call educated or

knowledgeable, educated at a madrasa
Geraldanthro 59 mins
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@Geraldanthro Start crying then and send someone to kill

me. thats all #US #Terrorists can do. isnt it?
MairaHashmi 59 mins
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@MairaHashmi Think the terorist just killed 90 yesterday,

and your rid of terrorism
Geraldanthro 59 mins
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@Geraldanthro So that proves i am intelligent. #Pakistanis

usually are. Unlike the dumb americans. check micheal

moore on that
MairaHashmi 1 hour
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@MairaHashmi Where do you get this drivile? its lies.
Geraldanthro 1 hour
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@Geraldanthro We supported #US for sometime, but not now.

We are free of the #terrorism, but you have to live with

it. you have it in blood
MairaHashmi 1 hour
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@MairaHashmi Ha ha but your views are unrelated to reality

thats not educated, that s stupid.
Geraldanthro 1 hour
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@Geraldanthro Killing millions in all parts of the world

and you #idiots still think anyone else is spreading

terrorism?




She types my name "Geraldanthro"
to send me tweet.
so where you see my name its her typing

Where you see her name its me typing.


I have eaiser format to read, email me for
copy.


InternetAnthropologistTT@gmail.com




I wanted to thank  for the exchange
she is very brave, and I learned alot about 
what Pakistani think about US and maybe some Ideas

how to work out our differences.

Gerald
Anthropologist


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